PM longtime user w/more CS4 questions...

Sorry to bother everyone but, I have a few more q's regarding the switcheroo between PM and indd.



1. When you want to select a few items on your page, I used to 'control' spacebar and drag in pm, I end up in indd, selecting way more frames or text blocks that I want to and can't deselect without causing a mess!!!... How do you select only the objects you want easily?



2. Is it normal when scrolling down a page, that all elements looks blurred, until you stop? Then it looks like indd relaxes, and turns everything super sharp. Is that a wierd indd phenomenom?



3. Where is the best place to learn about the tab function--on lynda, or what is the best book or source?



4. When you open new menus, such as swatches, paragraph, wraparounds, they are all over the place, how do you line them up nicely on the side?



Thanks for your help. I swear the other day I posted, and a few of you saved my life, at work today with your answers!!! You have no idea, how much a 20 year old veteran of pm is struggling with deadlines and trying to learn the new tricks of indd. It's great, but everything is just different enough to slow productivity. I've been using the adobe tv, but I should upgrade to Lynda. But, thanks for now.



k
PM longtime user w/more CS4 questions...
1. Use Shift-click to select multiple items one by one. It can be tricky to get the items you want without some trial and error; selection is usually most reliable on frame outlines. You might also want to read the online help section on ''Keys for selecting and moving objects'' for more pointers.



2. The smearing is a function of your video hardware more than anything else, but ID contributes to it by not trying to maintain video-like update rates for moving elements.



3. I'm not sure what the tab function is. :)



4. You can arrange the palettes and menus any way you like (detaching them from each other and the main window if you like) and then save the setup using the Window | Workspace dialog. I have several setups for different purposes and whether I'm using two monitors (my fixed setup) or three (when I have the third LCD available and attached).
PM longtime user w/more CS4 questions...
%26gt; 3. Where is the best place to learn about the tab function--on lynda, or what is the best book or source?



Probably just the online help. Tabs are pretty simple. There's not

really very much to learn. Or did you mean tables?



--

Kenneth Benson

Pegasus Type, Inc.

www.pegtype.com

Just to add to NitroPress's advice about multiple selections, if you

drag a marquee with the selection tool (the black arrow), you will

select every object the marquee *touches* or encloses. Then hold

Shift down and click to deselect any bits you don't want. If there's

a long column, for example, you don't have to drag all the way round

it - just a bit of it at the top will do.

--

Noel

It may take you a while to get used to selecting in ID. As Noel points out, with the marquee you select whatever you touch (the way it was in Quark) as opposed to the full-surround of PM. This is pretty nice, once you get used to it, because you can work zoomed in. And it's often faster, as he also said, to marquee more things than you want and shift-click to unselect one or two than to shift-click lots of different objects, especially if things are hiding behind something else.



Nobody mentioned yet that if you hold Ctrl while clicking you will select down through a stack, allowing to to select an item behind something else.



I don't think anyone answered how to dock panels, either. Grab the tab on a panel to move it into another group, or to drag it out of the group it's in. You should see a blue highlight inside the group when you are ready to drop a new panel inside. Grab the gray bar at the top of a panel group to dock it next to another group (you'll see a blue highlight on the edge of the group) or to dock on the side of the application window (the edge of the screen will get the blue highlight).



Peter

Noel, you're right - good addition to my comments.



I've never decided whether I like the ''marquee must enclose objects'' or ''marquee touches objects'' method better. Some apps use one method, others, the alternate. It can be confusing going back and forth between two apps using conflicting modes.

thanks again guys... When bringing in old PM files into ID, there are frames all over the place and it gets touchy to select items one at a time, or grouped. Seems to me, that when you create new docs in ID, you have to keep clean frames, meaning no overlap, no too long ones, hiding ones behind it... It seems very counterintuitive to designing quickly, but I will perservere. Will have a few more q's in a few days.. Don't want to overstay my welcome.



thanks so much.



K

%26gt;Seems to me, that when you create new docs in ID, you have to keep clean frames, meaning no overlap, no too long ones, hiding ones behind it..



Not at all. Keep in mind that when you convert PM to ID the two file structures are very different and the conversion can be anywhere from near perfect to near useless.

If you can't help making oversized frames and they bother you, from time to hit Ctrl A (select all) and Ctrl Sh C (fit frame to content) and things should stay neat.



k

Thanks Ken and Peter.... that helps. The stuff I learn from you guys is amazing.