Friday, March 26, 2010

CS3 Find Font/Delete Paragraph...

I am running into a very frustrating issue where I cannot replace a paragraph style. The issue is that we used to use some adobe type fonts and want to move to the true type equivalent so that we don't have problems working on files between mac and pc. The problem occurs on both mac and pc on a variety of hardware (both c86 and ppc macs for example). When we open the document it identifies that the font cannot be found (example Palatino T1). When we click find font and select the regular ttf Palatino replacement and click Change All Indesign just vanishes and leaves a crash message with a ton of garbage and a read only memory error. The same happens if we change the font on some text and right click on aragraph style and click ''redefine style'' - there is a sudden crash.



Trying to work around this I went into our templates and tried to change it there. Opening the paragraph style and selecting the new font caused it to crash upon selecting OK. Also trying to Make a new paragraph style works, but then when deleting the old one causes a crash no matter what combination of mapping or not mapping the old paragraph style we chose (we tried every option under the dialogue and selected several different styles to map to or none at all).



This occurs on several different fonts and on several different templates. I have tried deleting the adobe font cache to no avail. Any help resolving this would be great - all our employees are going nuts over this problem.



Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!
CS3 Find Font/Delete Paragraph...
Long shot, but it won't hurt anything... Export to .inx, open that and try again.



But it sounds like the font is corrupt. Can you use either version of the font in a new document? Can you go into the style definition and change the font to something else (in the dialog, not by restyling and choosing redefine)? Can you copy and paste into a new doc and change the font?



Peter
CS3 Find Font/Delete Paragraph...
Ah, I actually forgot to mention that I exported to inx and it crashed indesign but did produce the file. The file it produced had the same problems though.



I cannot change the definition in the style dialogue (see my original post), but I can change the font in a text box just fine but we can't change the style (changing every font in every text box every time a new file is opened is a real pain and not an acceptable long term solution).



Thanks for your ideas though! If you think of anything else, please let me know.

If you uninstall T1 Palatino and install TT Palatino, you should get a

missing font message on opening the file. What happens if you simply

substitute your new Palatino at that point?



Any special reason you chose Truetype over Opentype for cross-platform

compatibility?



--

Kenneth Benson

Pegasus Type, Inc.

www.pegtype.com

How about creating a new ''placeholder'' style and deleting the current one. Choose the placeholder as a replacement.



I think Ken may be onto something, though. Do you have both versions of Palatino installed at the same time? You don't want to do that.

Kenneth: True Type was a management decision - other than preference for open standards is there an advantage to open type?



The problem I have occurs when doing exactly what you described. I open the file, get that message, choose the new palatino, select change all and the program crashes.



Peter: No, the old palatino has been removed (which is why we get the message on opening the file). Creating a new style works, but when the old one is deleted the program crashes (when deleting there is dialogue box that appears, no matter what is chosen in the dialogue the program crashes)

Can you change the style using Find/Change? Leave the text fields blank, but change the search formatting to the Palatino paragraph style and the change formatting to a new style.

Peter, your latest post led me to an interesting revelation. When I change Palatino (t1) bold to Palatino Bold using Find/Change it is fine. When I change Palatino (t1) to any font using Find/Change there is a curious result! As soon as I click find first the page changes to the default template and all content is hidden. The 4 or 5 places where palatino occurs on the default template change fine, but then on the next click of FIND FIRST it crashes! So the problem is connected to ''find first'', not the actual change. My guess is this is an issue of with how the find/change jumps from the template to the individual page, but I'm not sure exactly what is happening.

Also, I noticed that when editing a paragraph style that has the old font if I select ''reset to base'' and ok it instantly crashes on me.
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