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tim
Bleed for A5 Magazine in adobe indesign
Why do you need inside bleed? There are ways to handle this but unless
your magazine is going to be spiral bound it's not likely that you need to.
Bob
Bleed for A5 Magazine in adobe indesign
You MIGHT need inside bleed for a perfect-bound magazine, but I think 40 pages is a bit thin for that.
What bob is trying to point out is that unless you split the spreads anything that bleeds at the gutter is going to overlap content on the other half of the spread. This is pretty much a disaster except in those cases where the two pages in the printer spread are consecutive, i.e. the center spread of a signature.
Peter
thanks guys for your reply and you will have to forgive me if i do sound a little thick but getting my head around all of this.
If i put a bleed of say 1p6 is it likely to move the right page of a facing page across now then? Is it best not to put a bleed on initial layout and then putting a bleed on when i am exporting to pdf. I know i need 3mm bleed for the printers but what would that be in pixels?
Sorry for being a pain guys really appreciate all your help
kind regards
tim
You'd better ask the printer how he wants the PDF. Does he want
facing pages (like you see it when you're creating the magazine in
Indesign), or does he want each page separately (i.e. not facing
pages)? This depends on what sort of imposition software he has.
Imposition is arranging the individual pages for printing - if it's
going to be saddle-stitched (stapled), then he might just put page
40 to the left of page 1 as a single 'printer's spread', but he
might put page 20 next to page 21 as well, turn them upside down and
print pages 1, 20, 21 and 40 on a single sheet of big A3 paper. He's
most likely only interested in bleed at the outside edges. When you
get his answer, you could then use 3mm bleed all round at the design
stage if he wants facing pages, or at export if he wants individual
pages. If he's lazy and wants printer's spreads (like page
40/page1), you'd better come back here and ask again.
You can just type '3mm' into the bleed boxes and Indesign will do
the calculation for you. 'p' is 'pica', not pixel, and unless you're
used to working in picas and points for dimensions, stick to
millimetres. You can change the default at Edit %26gt; Preferences.
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Noel
%26gt;unless you're used to working in picas and points for dimensions, stick to millimetres.
Your locale is showing. :)
Inches are OK, too. 1p6 is .25'', twice the standard .125'' (or almost exactly 3mm).
I forgot to answer the questions. %)
%26gt;If i put a bleed of say 1p6 is it likely to move the right page of a facing page across now then?
No. Adding an inside bleed has no effect on a regular facing pages spread. It only appears on the first or last page (the single ones) or when you break another spread apart into singles.
%26gt;Is it best not to put a bleed on initial layout and then putting a bleed on when i am exporting to pdf.
It doesn't matter, really, but it's convenient to set it up first. Then you don't have to think about it later, and you get that nice bleed guide to remind you where things need to be.
Coincidentally, I am in a very similar situation. I have been asked to create a 32 page A5 magazine.
I am assembling it as a 32 page document in InDesign. When I asked the printer about using a 3mm bleed, he said to only add it to those pages that need a bleed and to send the document as individual pages.
Q1 - Is there a way to manually add a 3mm bleed to individual pages (not all of them) within a document?
Q2 - Is there an automated way to split the 32 page document into individual pages once the document is complete?
Q3 - If Q2 can't be done, how do I know what bleed to put on page 4 and page 29? I state these pages because these would surely be connected at the print stage.
Thanks in advance.
1. No but it doesn't matter. If there's nothing bleeding of the edge,
there's no bleed.
2. Not without a script but you can export the PDF and use the extract
pages command in Acrobat
3. The printers said 3 mm. That's what you should use.
Bob
OK - thanks Bob. I've got Acrobat Pro 8. I'll have a look at that tomorrow.
Why do you need inside bleed? There are ways to handle this but unless
your magazine is going to be spiral bound it's not likely that you need to.
I am in a similar situation, but I AM creating a spiral bound book. How do I show an inside bleed for facing pages???
Thanks in advance!
Eric
Uncheck ''allow selected spread to shuffle'' then deselect the spread by clicking another page in the panel if necessary. Drag the spread apart until you see a black line and it will split into two individual pages, similar to the first and last pages, one on each side of the spine.
http://indesignsecrets.com/breaking-pages-apart-to-bleed-off-a-spine.php
Bob
But now that I've answered the question, there is probably an easier way to deal with this. Set up the page size wider than the trim size by the amount of the bleed and set the inside bleed to zero. Add the same amount to the inside margin, and put a guide on the master page to indicate the trim edge for your reference.
Set up this way you will still see readers spread while you do your layout and editing, and all of the pages will have the bleed allowance at the spine. The downside is you need to coordinate well with the printer so he knows to trim off the inside edge. You may need to manually apply the crop marks (again, do it on the master page. Add a slug area all around to accommodate them or they won't show on the document pages, and include the slug area when you export.
Peter
Interesting solution, thanks Peter. Your first post with the ''page shuffle'' option seems to work, from a printing perspective.
However, my working document no longer displays the facing pages side by side which makes it harder to visualize the final composition. Is there a way to spread them apart but keep them on the same pane of the pasteboard? (UPDATE: Just read your second reply above, detailing the workaround option. I may give that a try, thanks again).
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