Sunday, April 4, 2010

IDCS2 Table of Contents

I have a document which has material with three different levels: beginner, intermediate, and advanced, and rather than on ToC I would like to have three Table's of Contents. Is that possible in InDesign (CS2), and how do I do it. I tried setting up the Beginner's ToC and it worked fine, but when I set up the Intermediate one it changed the definition of the Intermediate one, and just pulled those articles.
IDCS2 Table of Contents
You have to create a different TOC style for each TOC you want.



Dave
IDCS2 Table of Contents
That is what I did. The beginner articles had ''title beginner'' style and I built a toc using ''title beginner'' style and it did just pull them



Then I opened a new text frame and said build toc with ''title intermediate'' style and it did, but I could no longer update the beginner toc, it pulled intermediate articles

Updating multiple TOCs seems not to go smoothly for a people. I haven't done it, myself, but I can surmise where some of the pitfalls might be.



First, you've really created and saved three distinct TOC Styles (as opposed to just changing the definitions inside the TOC Style to reflect different paragraph styles you want to find)? Second, you've got an active cursor in the TOC you want to update? It may be enough to select the frame containing the TOC story, but I wouldn't count on it.



Finally, if that still doesn't work, it would seem to indicate that ID is remembering the last TOC style used instead of the style used to create each TOC story, so instead of trying to update, delete the current TOC and start again.



Peter

Thank you Peter. I was failing to save style with a unique name, I was just changing default. It works now. I presume when I update ToC I will need to do them one at a time

I would think that's correct.

I have just finished building a document, not a book, which has quite a few pages and want to create a TOC for it. I have paragraph styles created for all the various titles I want to appear within the TOC. I went through the TOC set-up but when I click ''OK'' and then placed the text cursor in the text frame I have made the only thing which comes up is the Title of the TOC, No Contents. Please help!

You said I have paragraph styles created for all the various titles I want to appear within the TOC.



When you set up your TOC are those styles listed under ''include paragraph styles''? And you do have articles with one of those styles for its title?

Yes I have added them to the Included Paragraph Styles. Then one by one on each style I set the look and feel for the entry style, page number and style.



I'm not quite sure what you mean when you ask if I have articles with each style? Each of the ''Included'' styles are used in the document if that is what you are asking.



I'm not sure if this makes a difference of not but the Titles are not placed in the individual pages but rather in the Master documents and I applied the Style to the Title in the Master. Hopefully that makes sense.

OK take a look at http://tulsahightech.com/adobe/toc1.png and http://tulsahightech.com/adobe/toc2.png



toc2 shows that the line ''Beginners Column''

is paragraph style _toc beginner



toc1 shows the TOC with the heading Beginner is to Include Paragraph Style _toc beginner and when it is included in the TOC it will be formatted with _toc body text style



Is this what you have

Ok, a little progress but not much.



As mentioned earlier I have several sections to my document and I created a Master Page for each section due to colors and formatting for each section. Even though the Master Pages were all applied to the document the TOC was not reading it. However when I Ctl+Shift clicked the frames on the pages making active the nested master frames, then suddenly TOC began to appear.



So now the Titles of each section are displaying in the TOC but not the subtitles. The subtitles are a paragraph style as well but I only have 1 subtitle paragraph style which applies to all subtitles. Do I need to make a paragraph style for each subtitle even though they are all formatted the same?



Would it be best to separate each section of my document to it's own file and them bring them all together into a Book document?



What this also makes me ask is when creating Master Pages and I insert the automated Section Marker and I have a Paragraph style applied to the Marker, this will not display in the TOC either. So why even set the Marker if it wont display?



Thanks!

I have never done subtitles in a TOC, and help does not list the term.



Is it possible you want to build an Index, not a TOC? Indexes can have subentrys



A Master page is not really a page with material in it. It is a collection of attributes (margins, number of columns, etc) and you can apply one master or another to a specific page in your document. The TOC and Index just deal with actual pages in your document.

I am wanting to make a TOC like in most publications. It would look like this:



CHAPTER TITLE

article...page #)1

article... 3



CHAPTER TITLE

article... 6

article... 10



I got the Chapter Titles to finally display in the TOC by not placing them in the Master. Now under each Chapter I have several articles witht he title of the article in a smaller font above each article within the Chapter and want to be able to list each of these article titles under the Chapter Title in the TOC.



As mentioned before I have a paragraph style for the article title but in the TOC Style box the paragraph style for these article titles does show up and I add it to Included Styles but then it only can be in one spot under Included Styles. So since it only can have the style in there one time the article titles are only listed under one Chapter and not all of them.

Can you try building an Index instead of a ToC. I think you can get what you want. And then call the index a ToC

I think Brandon should be able to get all he wants out of a TOC, but he'll need to add the sub-head style to the list of included styles (and most likely make it a level 2 listing). Be sure you click the ''more options'' button to expand the dialog for the added functionality.



Peter

That is good to know. I just never tried subcategories in a TOC

I found a video tutorial on the Adobe site which talks about Indexes, I think Don was right in that this will be the way to go.

Trying to make this happen, the way I know how, will be too complicated with ToC.

I'll let you know how this works for future inquiries.

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